Ren Harman: Good afternoon, my name is Ren Harman and today is April 22nd at
about 3:30 p.m., and we are here in Squires 238. So, to start with what is your
name, your date and place of birth?
Lorraine Feury: I am Lorraine Feury, a recent graduate of Virginia Tech. Class
of 2014. Date of birth, June 14, 1992, and where I'm from Northern Virginia.
Ren: Can you tell us a little bit about your family and about your upbringing,
mom and dad, brothers and sisters? Tell me a little bit about your upbringing.
Lorraine: My parents are West African. There were born and raised in Sierra
Leone. They moved to England to get some years in college; they didn't finish
college. Had me and then we moved to America, so I have a first
00:01:00 westerngeneration, first college generation, and the first born, so first child to go
through the whole American education system. But pretty much I was raised with a
very family environment. Everything you do is not for yourself, it's to always
benefit the people around you. I always grew up with the phrase, if you don't
where you're going know where you're coming from. So it was always very
important for me and my parents teaching me and my brother and sister to learn
from the past experiences they've had, or my grandmas had or my aunts and uncles
had, so that we wouldn't make the same mistakes they did, because they did a lot
of sacrificing to get us here. My parents left a whole entire country, aunts and
uncles who
00:02:00survived a civil war in Sierra Leone and were doing their best tomake sure that their kids should survive. So just all those different
experiences and examples of just perseverance, determination, and strength was
really all incorporated in my childhood.
Ren: When did you first think about college? High school, I guess?
Lorraine: Yeah, I thought about college when I take the SAT. And it's funny
because I didn't really think about [Virginia] Tech until April 16th, because we
had an alumni from my high school he was one of the fallen Hokies there. So that
when I really started paying attention. Before then didn't know what [Virginia]
Tech was about, didn't really care at first.
Ren: Were there some other reasons you chose Virginia Tech? WHy did you choose
it over maybe some other colleges?
Lorraine: So when I
00:03:00applied me and my best friends we had this idea of we're allgoing to go to the same school and we're going to rule the campus and it was
going to be out of state. So we all went to Penn State University campus, like,
yeah, we're going to go. We're going to do this. We showed our parents the bill,
they are like, no. I still wanted that out of state feeling, so Virginia Tech
was still far enough, but it's still close enough to be considered in state. And
then also when I was doing more research into Virginia Tech it was a big
institution, so it had a lot of not only a good football program, but had a lot
of research opportunities and a great alumni network for me to use after I graduated.
Ren: What was your first memory of Virginia Tech and when was that?
Lorraine: Personally I have a couple.
Ren: Okay.
Lorraine: The first one, so Northern Virginia. I don't live in any mountains. I
am familiar with farms. There's a small farm across the street from where I
live, so I remember I was coming down for student orientation and left really
00:04:00early in the morning, so it was still dark. And we were driving down 81 and Isaw a sign it says, watch out for falling rocks. I asked my mom, What do you
mean rocks are falling? Rocks shouldn't be falling. We're on a road. It's dark
outside and I was like paranoid for the entire trip, so I was like we need to
watch out for these falling rocks. So that was good, but as a lot of people say
it looks like Hogwarts. I really read a lot of Harry Potter books when I was younger.
Ren: Yeah, me too.
Lorraine: I liked the beautiful landscape how when you look, especially during a
sunset, the mountains just look painted. It doesn't really like--it looks
surreal. And another of my favorite moment was my first Virginia Tech game,
orange effect. I can't remember who we were playing, but I was late to the game
because I couldn't find my seat for Enter
00:05:00Sandman so I had to watch it from thesouth end zone, and just seeing so many people jumping up and down to Enter
Sandman. It was just amazing.
Ren: Right.
Lorraine: And that honestly is one of my favorite first memories of [Virginia]
Tech is that football game.
Ren: So you hadn't really visited Blacksburg until you came for some type of
like for new student orientation?
Lorraine: I visited campus once from All United Nations in high school, but it
wasn't like come look at this school because you're interested in it and here
are our programs. It's usually some type of business interaction I've had before.
Ren: What was your major?
Lorraine: I graduated with two degrees, one in math and one in sociology.
Ren: You graduated in 2014, did you have some notable professors and how did
they impact you and how are they
00:06:00important in your life?Lorraine: So I have my math and sociology degree, and then I had a minor in
leadership and social change. So one of my professors I believe he's a doctor
now, so I can call him Dr. Mathew Grimes. We used to call him Coach back then
because he didn't like the formal Mr., so he was really great. My freshman year
I took him for both fall and semester classes of our leadership class with
living in the residential community, ROC-- The people that lived in the building
and Peddrew-Yates you also see in classes, so it was kind of like I was in
school 24/7 in regards to that curriculum.
Ren: Right.
Lorraine: He was just my ideal teacher. Like his teaching style he will
00:07:00 useexamples, sometimes use oral presentations. Sometimes we would read books. It
was just a very nice balance of all these different ways you can learn, and he
was just so enthusiastic about learning, and showing how to be a leader,
encouraging us to do service projects. I still keep in contact with him. Like
he's one of my favorites. Let's see, some notable classes were my classes junior
and senior year in math. When I started my math degree I was under the
impression that math was just numbers. Knowing numbers I should be fine. I was
like okay cool, I like numbers, until I had my proofs class and I didn't
understand why I was spending hours writing words, I was writing an essay for a
math problem. I was like that's not what they told me when I signed up for math.
I don't know why it's happening.
00:08:00A lot of my harder classes, looking back in thepast I enjoy them now because it just showed that even though I was struggling,
I just didn't understand some of the concepts, I was just getting really
frustrated when why am I not being perfect, it really taught me more about
myself. It helped me define my sense of perseverance and determination and strength.
Ren: Right. You mentioned, I think in one of your minors you said something
about social justice or social reform, things like that; what was your interest
in that? Was that just kind of something to do or was it linking back earlier to
what you said about your mom and dad?
Lorraine: Initially I wanted to go to college for international relations. In
high school I was in an international program, so my deal was to be an
ambassador and travel the world. Mom was like, you don't really make enough
money with that. You're really good at math; let's do math. So I retaliated and
I said, okay, well I'm going to get a second degree in sociology. So that's how
the sociology degree came about, but I've always been fascinated with the fact
that
00:09:00whenever someone says they like math some people are like, ugh, you likemath? That's so hard. And I want to be able to find a way to use my applied
skills in math and to help create some type of social reform or create an
environment where people do not need to be scared of things they struggle with.
I'm not saying you have to be perfect with everything you do, but there is a
beauty of recognizing the successes you can get from your failures, and not a
lot of people have that kind of few.
Ren: Right.
Lorraine: My deal was just finding creative ways to just encourage people who
are not math-friendly. It's actually understanding they do math. They feel like
oh don't understand concept. I'm like you actually do algebra when you go to the
mall and you're like, okay, I'm going to spend one hundred dollars. These couple
of stores have sales. I know I want a particular amount of shirts and pants,
maybe accessories. How can I make this work with one hundred dollars?" That's
math right
00:10:00 there.Ren: Right. My wife is a math teacher, so all these things you're saying it's
like, she teaches at Blacksburg High School, she's a math teacher and so all
these things you are saying I hear from her all the time. And she always talks
about her students like, why am I going to use this? And then she's like, you
will use it, and that example at the mall she's used that on me before. It's
very refreshing to hear someone else repeat it. You talked about Enter Sandman;
what are some other favorite memories or experiences you've had here in your
four years?
Lorraine: I've done so much. Freshman year I was all over the place. If there
was an event that seems kind of interesting I'm going to go and do it. There's
another type of leadership program for Virginia Tech where they had it for
freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior classes and that was held with Dr.
Alison Dunn. I don't believe she's with
00:11:00the school anymore, but that was alsohelpful for me. I became a member of Black Student Alliance which introduced me
to the Budget Board, so that helped me get a better understanding of okay,
students actually do get some type of say of the money and the tuition we pay to
the school to pay for organizations. So just all those different opportunity has
led me to do different things. My senior year I was able to zone in on the
places I was interested in, so I still remain the Chair of Budget Board, which
allowed me to be a member of the Order of the Gavel.
Ren: Okay.
Lorraine: What was a very profound moment. Usually every year we have the April
16 some type of memorial we do, so I was the light. I held the light from
Burruss to the candle.
Ren: It kind of came full circle, right?
Lorraine: Yeah. Oh, that was really a good
00:12:00memory. It was just really quiet. Itwas a nice clear day. The cadet was who leading the taps from the Burruss
Stadium his father was one of the fallen. So that was even more touching. You
could just hear the echoes. That was also memory.
Ren: Fast-forward to your senior year, you really probably brought things full
circle for you, huh?
Lorraine: Yeah. I really enjoy meeting new people. People kind of find it weird
when I say I'm shy, but I've been practicing forcing myself to actually go out
and meet people, because I tell students all the time these four years of
college, this is the only time I'm going to be able to meet so many people,
create so many networking opportunities. Because after you graduate if I
approach you on the street it's like all right, she's kind of crazy. Did I do
something? Is she trying to rob
00:13:00me? So I just try and get involved witheverything. I remember one favorite event also was Relay for Life. One of my
friends, I was like a faithful Zumba, an instructor Stephanie Mateos, we
graduated the same year, so she had a spot to perform Zumba on the stage. I
think it was like two or three o'clock in the morning during Relay for Life.
Ren: Oh my gosh.
Lorraine: And we were all in there doing it and that was just amazing.
Ren: That's awesome.
Lorraine: Even though someone fell. It was so funny but we kept going. It was amazing.
Ren: Yeah. We talked about a lot of positive things about Virginia Tech. I
graduated for my bachelor's degree, I guess it would be your sophomore year, so
I graduated in 2011, so we probably crisscrossed a lot of the same events and
things that happened here, but were there any difficult experiences that you
feel comfortable talking about maybe that you had on campus in your four years?
Lorraine: Being
00:14:00a Black woman and coming from an area where I was used tohearing accents from all over, Spanish accents, African accents, Asian accents,
European accents. It was really weird coming to a place-- As big as Virginia
Tech is I thought it would bring more people who have interacted with people
outside of their culture, but I was wrong about that. I remember I had roommates
who I was doing my hair, I like doing a whole lot of different hairstyles. They
were just in awe with what I was doing. I was like to me this is normal and a
lot of them brought up I don't even think we have a Black person in our country.
I was just like I'm the first Black person? Like eighteen years of your whole
life you haven't seen a Black person or interacted with them daily? That's
crazy. So difficulties like that, especially my math classes, I was the only
Black person in most of my
00:15:00classes. And I was doing so many stuff outside ofclass I just felt it was hard for me to relate to my classmates, because they
were just focused on just studying to get that A and stuff, and I was more to
the concept of learning more about the skills as opposed to saying, oh I got an
A in my class. Because some of my best classes I've taken were not As, and they
were not Bs, but I know I earned that grade and when I tell you I know what I
know I can say it with confidence.
Ren: Right.
Lorraine: Just little frustrating things like that where my friends would go to
other schools and they will have all these different cultural events going on,
and it was kind of hard for me to find that type of environment here.
Ren: Did those kind of things oftentimes maybe being the only Black student in
your class and then interested with your culture, your hair, did those things
ever really bother you or did you just kind of play it off I'm in southwest
Virginia and this is kind of how the culture is
00:16:00 here?Lorraine: Sometimes it did. It honestly just depended on my patience, because as
much as I don't want to-- People that come with a similar background like mine
and they are put into an environment where people do not understand or they've
never been given the opportunity to understand a culture outside of their own or
a lifestyle outside of their own, I'm always forced to be a teacher 24/7.
Whether or not I will always be a teacher, I will always be a living example or
the person that speaks for whatever group they think I'm representing. So it
gets really frustrating sometimes where I have to remind people that it's okay
for us to disagree on certain things, but at least just try to understand where
I'm coming from. And not everyone that you see that looks similar to
00:17:00me will beexactly like that. That's been frustrating. And then also just the lack of
different color people in the area as well. When I started [Virginia] Tech,
before [Virginia] Tech I think the proportions of the Black community was fairly
high. I think they were pushing 10 percent. When I graduated I think we were
barely touching 4 percent, and at the same time a lot of the faculty members who
actually encouraged me to join some of the organizations I was in, they were
leaving the community as well. So it's a bit frustrating because there are days
where just like maybe I should transfer, like teachers kind of treating me I
feel like in a certain way that they wouldn't have treated my other classmates.
It's just like okay, well this is what you want to do. These are the
opportunities. You can do this,
00:18:00because I can run away from that problem now,but when I graduate I may be facing another situation. So it's best to do in a
more safer environment, so that I can really learn how to deal with a situation
if I have to approach it again in the future.
Ren: Right. So following your education, you recently graduated, so how has your
Virginia Tech education played out in your real life as they say?
Lorraine: Well where I work they recruit a lot of Hokies, so that was nice. We
can make jokes about campus and you understand.
Ren: Yeah.
Lorraine: All the different opportunities I've had like a Budget Board that
helped me get the job I was in, just those different skill sets. It's funny,
because ever since I've graduated I've acquired more maroon and orange, and like
people at my job they make fun at me because I have an orange cup. I have an
00:19:00orange lunch bag. I have like maroon stockings, a maroon jacket, a maroon purse. [Laughs]Ren: What's your current position?
Lorraine: I'm a cost analyst, so I support the Navy, and then I'm also a
graduate student at Georgetown, so anytime I walk on campus at Georgetown I am a
bit homesick. There's a building that looks similar to, something similar to
Burris and they have kind of Hokie stone. Well it looks like Hokie stone and
I'll go on campus and I'm like, oh, this is such a fake school. That's not real
Hokie stone.
Ren: That's awesome. So if someone simply says, Virginia Tech, what's the first
thing you think of?
Lorraine: I think of all the different opportunities I received from the school.
There's just a lot out here and
00:20:00every time I meet with someone I try to sharewith them that same energy and try to share with them the same opportunities I
was given. So my freshman year people will come up and introduce ourselves to
each other. Someone is like, oh Lorraine I heard that you're interested in this.
Here's this event, go to that. Just that being able to have access to so many
different sources and so many different ideas, whether you want to join an
organization or not, just being able to get a taste of what they're talking
about I really truly miss that ever since graduating [Virginia] Tech, just being
able to say, oh you know, maybe I want to learn something about Nepal or
something. Okay, they're having an event. Let me go over there. It's kind of
hard to do that in DC.
Ren: Right, I can't even imagine. Interesting. Are you still involved at the
university in some capacity? And then maybe in what ways?
Lorraine: I'm trying to be more involved. I'm still trying
00:21:00to keep up myGeorgetown work life balanced because grad school is hard.
Ren: It is.
Lorraine: But I still have a couple of friends that are graduating this year, so
I do keep up with some of the different things, whether I see it on Facebook or
Snapchat, or I'll get the newsletter. But I do have a desire to get more
involved in alumni networking and to expand recruitment from my high school,
because I don't think Virginia Tech really recruits to Hilton anymore.
Ren: Why do you think, and this is a question that I've always wondered too, and
maybe you don't think that they are, but Virginia Tech alumni a lot of Virginia
Tech alumni are really engaged once they graduate with the university in some
capacity. Being a freshly new Hokie maybe all these
00:22:00things you've already said,why did you think that? Why do you think they become engaged with the university?
Lorraine: Okay, imagine you hear this restaurant, you've been hearing great
reviews about it. You finally get the chance to sit down and taste their food.
Like oh, I finally see why this is so amazing. What's the next thing you want to
do? You want to go and tell everybody, I've been to this restaurant that
everyone is talking about, and I can prove to you that the food is amazing. I
ate there. So it's just being able to share that blessing and to share that good vibe.
Ren: Yeah. That's a really good point, because somebody who has been here for a
very long time getting degrees and things. I find myself telling family members
who have children who are getting ready to graduate high school, like, you guys
going to Virginia Tech, can I help you out? It's the same exactly what you said,
that's a very good analogy because you think about how much this institution
means to all of us, and that's the first thing you want to do is to go tell
00:23:00someone. I really like that analogy. That was really good. I will have toremember that one. You talked about a lot of things in terms of Virginia Tech
and historically a PWI and some issues you had. You always felt like the teacher
in things. What would be some changes you would like to see and maybe that you
have seen?
Lorraine: Oh that's a good question. Some changes. One reason why I enjoyed my
time here at Virginia Tech was that I encouraged myself and forced myself to
pursue classes that not only work on your knowledge, but work on your idea of
your self-being. I'm a very big advocate for self-awareness. So I think it's
very important that Virginia Tech can encourage some type
00:24:00of, I don't know ifit's a wellness test but to see where you're standing. Because sometimes people
don't understand that they're going through stress. It's just actually hit them
full force. So before I came to [Virginia] Tech I still don't consider myself an
anxious person, but there's been times where I was really stressed out because I
was doing a lot. But my body will tell me I was doing a lot by loss of appetite,
or whenever I did eat I couldn't stomach down the food.
Ren: Yeah.
Lorraine: So just getting rid of that stigma of ignoring yourself, just because
you are physically fit doesn't mean you are mentally fit. I feel it's more
important to be mentally fit because then that navigates and controls everything
else that you do. So I would really like Virginia Tech to push everyone at least
once a year to do some type of wellness assessment, because it is a big change,
especially if you're someone who is maybe coming out of state. You're an only
child. You're far away from home. Your idea of very very smart and you
00:25:00just gotyour first F on a test some people don't know how to deal with that properly, so
I think that will be very cool if they can introduce some type of self-care
system or some type of take care of me system. I know they've incorporated new I
guess global classes, like people learning about other topics outside of their
required electives or their major.
Ren: Right. A lot of interdisciplinary stuff going on, which you kind of
positioned yourself as that when you were here, even before the cool thing to
do, right?
Lorraine: Yeah, you know, a little-- I was going to say a little hippie.
Ren: A little over-achiever maybe.
Lorraine: Yeah, maybe, or too excited, but I think that will be great as well.
Also, I know there's a museum, a history museum in the Goldschmidt End Center.
That was the first time I have ever been in that, and they said it's been there
since 2007. I did not have any idea. But just ways for current
00:26:00students to thehistory that they had. Like the fact that I was here and I met the first Black
woman to come to [Virginia] Tech. Downstairs, the lady, there's a lady Ms.
Rhonda, she is secretary in the MPS Office, the first Black secretary hired by
Virginia Tech. And her husband is the first Black quarterback at Virginia Tech.
Just all these different firsts, like it will be nice to let the mainstream
public know that you're walking around amongst history, or you're creating
history yourself.
Ren: Right. Just interviews like this we're creating history and this is going
in a special collection, so fifty years from now our grandchildren can listen to
about how good this university is and maybe they will come here too, so we'll
see. Is there anything you would like to add or felt I should have asked or
anything you want to
00:27:00 include?Lorraine: Thirty minutes is such a short time.
Ren: Yeah, it really is, and we could have went really in-depth, but I wanted to
hit the highlights. If there is anything you want to take a second and think,
anything else you would like to say.
Lorraine: I think another thing Virginia Tech should look at is really teaching
or really encouraging the students to engage with each other. I notice over my
times at [Virginia] Tech that people don't really say hi to each other, usually
just stay within the click or group that you're with. And college is the time
where you are supposed to be out of your comfort zone. This is the whole
environment for you to test your beliefs, for you to test your approaches and
deal with things. So I think Virginia Tech should focus more on trying to get
people to intermingle outside of their normal cliques.
Ren: Right, this has been wonderful. It's be
00:28:00short at to the point, but thankyou so much and I really appreciate it.
Lorraine: Thank you for listening.
[End of interview]
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